if making 20-50 more people happy to have a few rooms, then why not?

:)

Most of the folks that have been in the no help rooms really didn’t have issue with people asking for help on the really hard riddles which it seemed like was the primary requests before the transition…but honestly when people come into a room and immediately ask for help (and it’s a really simple riddle), and people are nice and help them…but then spoil it for those of us that haven’t had that riddle yet. It’s a shame they still don’t have the PSST function so that people could use that to pass the answers, but we don’t have that anymore. Maybe it’s because there are new people playing riddle and instead of doing it themselves they’d rather ask for help…but it really does seem like since the transition it’s gotten much worse than I’d seen on the old site.

I know what you mean about no one having issues before/everyone co-existing, and I think if they didn’t add the rooms the few of us that like to solve the riddle would keep doing what we’d been doing, but that’s the fun of the beta. Someone gets an idea to ask for something and the BSG folks are willing to try it. (I go back to my pause button for riddle example…thought it was the silliest request since you could either just miss a few critters or leave the room and come back later…but I bit my tongue on saying that I thought it was a bit extreme to ask for and really no reason for it…I’m glad I held back…I use that silly pause button all the time now.) I know this is a bit different than the pause button, but if making 20-50 more people happy to have a few rooms, then why not?

I really don’t see these rooms as much different than the strong language rooms or the CAPS LOCKER rooms. Not everyone uses those rooms either, and many times there are only handful in those rooms, but no one seems to have issue with these rooms being around (probably since they aren’t new). I also have no beef with them creating ‘no chat’ rooms either, which some have been asking for since those that don’t like to chat are getting accused of being parkers (and frankly, they could take a couple of the ‘no help’ rooms (I vote for Lone Wolves and Solo Seekers) and transition them to ‘no chat’ rooms, if that makes people happy).

Using the logic that because only a few people would use these rooms so they shouldn’t be there…well, then, why do we have games like Shape Shifter and Mush! and Freecell…these are consistently the lowest played games right now…so then maybe they need to be removed from the site. I hope you’d agree that this is somewhat silly logic to use because people like these games…so be glad that BSG is listening to even a few people and coming up with solutions. One day, those that are dogging this idea, might just be in a minority for something else, and it’ll be nice if the developers listen to you to, don’t you think?!

Just my thoughts…and can’t we just agree to disagree? ;)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but one of the main arguments for these rooms being added was that just turning off chat would deny them from chatting with their friends. If these “no answer” people are so quick to do their riddle and leave, then what was the point again?

I agree with b3achy though, there probably hasn’t been enough TIME passed for people to hear about and settle into these rooms. However, I’m still skeptical whether or not there was really enough reason to create the rooms in the first place or if it was just a case of the squeaky wheel getting the grease. After all, Riddle O’Day helpers and non-helpers co-existed just fine for a solid fourteen months before these rooms were added.

Quite a few have come into the rooms asking what ‘no help’ meant, and once explained they usually express that they like the idea of not getting spoiled by the answers that others don’t even want to spend a minimum amount of time trying to solve. And most reference that you can get the answers here at this site and they don’t understand why people have to ask for help in chat anyway.

The people that originally requested these rooms were turning off their chats to not have to see the answers, but they also liked to chat with their friends. I dare say many that are just saying ‘turn off chat’ wouldn’t like to be inconvenience to continually have to turn chat off and on and off and on throughout the course of their playing this game.

There are plenty of other Riddle rooms that often have only a couple people in them and in many of the other games there are plenty of rooms that never have anyone in them. So it seems that it’s not a big server space issue for the site to have the rooms available for those that want to use them.

I think kudos go to BSG for being willing to listen to a problem – wanting to have fun to solve the riddle and not be spoiled by seeing the answers in chat – and helping with a simple solution of adding some rooms. So, maybe 4 was too many…but who cares, if they are ok with it?

Also, the game site is still beta. The point of beta is to work through the kinks and provide recommendations to improve either the games or the environment for the other players. Some of these recommendation will work, some wont. This was a valid request not the typical ‘complaining’ that so many talk about. I’d lump complaining as comments like “this site stinks”, or “I hate this site and I’m going elsewhere”, or “bring back Big Fish” rather than presenting an issue and offering a solution or offering improvements to the games.

I for one use the ‘no help’ rooms, and I’m quite happy they are there. I’ll be happier when it’s Oct and there are ‘new’ riddles (yea, I know they’ll be the same as last year’s), so I won’t already have all the answers memorized from seeing them in the chat. And then again, I can enjoy the game that is named RIDDLE o’ the Day, not Catch Critters o’ the Day. For me solving the Riddle is the best part…although the new northern lights are cool too… :)